Archive for February, 2005

technical difficulties

Friday, February 25th, 2005

It appears that a couple of comments have been lost overnight. It is possible that they have been bumped by our spam filter or that there was a glitch with the site. Could anyone who has experienced difficulties please let us know in the comments or via email (dan at signposts dot […]

cultivating growth

Thursday, February 24th, 2005

From a post by Alan Roxburgh and Chris Erdman on cultivating growth:
Cultivation is an ancient word taken from agricultural practices. It is an organic metaphor rather than one of managment or warfare. A gardner or farmer understands that the life and purpose of plants or crops is not something over which the farmer has a […]

Forge - shaping of things to come #5

Tuesday, February 22nd, 2005

Jesus is Lord is at the centre. This profession is at the centre of the early church and the church in China under persecution.
These two movements had the following elements:
Missional Incarnational impulse
Communitas not community
Organic systems
Disciple making
Apostolic Environment
These elements of what Alan calls mDNA (missional DNA) is the focus of his yet to be published new […]

Forge - shaping of things to come #4

Tuesday, February 22nd, 2005

Consumerism is the attempt to find meaning in things other than God.
Consumerism is the new religion.

Forge - Shaping of things to come #4

Tuesday, February 22nd, 2005

What will the future hold? Alan Hirsch’s prediction:
Lots of little emerging church communities and a few mega churches.
It is the middle sized churches that are under the most threat. They don’t do big well - become dagy. They don’t do small well.

Forge - Shaping of things to come #3

Tuesday, February 22nd, 2005

We need to dethrone Constantine.
Was he even a Christian??
After 17 Centuries of Christendom - where are we?
Can we stand on the shoulders of christendom and move forward?
Create a movement that learns from the early church.
The best critque of the bad is the practice of the better.

forge - shaping of things to come #2

Tuesday, February 22nd, 2005

Alan Hirsch
The traditional model of church – means that the church is dependent on the minister. Imagine if you don’t preach one day?? What would the reaction be from people who are conditioned to expect a sermon – to be fed? Ministers also like this dependency. Their ego’s and roles are built around this.
Jesus didn’t […]

forge - shaping of things to come #1

Tuesday, February 22nd, 2005

Alan Hirsch - Shaping of things to come #1
I was suffering yesterday (as I am today) with a severe cold. So, doped up on cold and flu tablets means that my notes may not be too articulate.. please no comments on my usual level of articulation
Adaptive challenge – something will happen that organisms […]

ehhh

Monday, February 21st, 2005

I was commenting on the post below and I was reminded of this Simpsons exchange:
Lisa: “Nothing you say can upset us. We’re the MTV generation, we feel neither highs nor lows”
Homer: “Really? What’s it like?”
Lisa: “ehh…”
I wonder whether our critique of the gen x mindset is fair. It seems similar to the way […]

forge - Jesus in entertainment land #3

Saturday, February 19th, 2005

Mark Sayers
Youth and Shopping
Is our obsession with Youth… botox, young pop stars etc, to do with our fear of death. We exclude death from our eyes. Death is what happens in dark small rooms in the nursing home. Gone are the days where families would grieve with the dead person in the house. Those close […]