Catch the burn
Have scouted around, and wanted to point you to some reactions to the penalty phase in the racial and religious vilification case in VCAT. Two of the big supporters of Catch the Fire ministries have started the ball rolling with statements that the penalties are in effect religious censorship. Saltshakers has a blow by blow description of the penalty hearing which makes for interesting reading. On its home page, it states that the penalty is akin to religious censorship, but has clear summaries of what was actually decided including links to the judgment itself. A particularly useful resource for those that are interested is the transcript of the seminar itself. I am about half way through it, because it is fairly plodding and repetitive, but it does give a better sense of the totality of the seminar than the excerpts quoted in the judgments.
The Australian Christian Lobby goes one step further. Its media release includes a number of unsupportable assertions, but also includes some very curious statements such as this one
“Today’s Catch The Fire Ministries Penalty Hearing ruling surely puts another nail in
the coffin of religious free speech in Victoria”, said David Barton, the Australian
Christian Lobby’s Victorian State Director.
“Whether or not the two Pastors concerned in this matter really are guilty is almost
becoming irrelevant. That matter is still the subject of an appeal to the Supreme Court
and remains to be seen”, added Mr Barton. (emphasis added)
Again, it makes reference to the jail and potential martyrdom of the respondents
“Indeed, if the Pastor’s now decide not to apologize, and not to carry out Judge Higgins’
proscriptive requirements, what then?” Mr Barton said that “A jail sentence and
Christian martyrdom is starting to look like a very real outcome to this absurd
situation.”
Wisely, Catch the Fire hasn’t thrown a statement up on its site yet, but stay tuned for updates. The Islamic Council of Victoria doesn’t have a statement up yet either. In the media, the pundits have jumped onto the bandwagon in a big way. Andrew Bolt has come out against the laws, not being scared to work fast and loose with the facts of the decision:
Last December, Judge Higgins finally ruled that Scot in particular had offended by quoting the Koran in a way that got “a response from the audience at various times in the form of laughter”. Is laughter now a crime?
Stranger still, he gave 13 examples of how Scot had “made fun of Muslim beliefs and conduct”, at least eight of which involved him quoting the Koran, and, I believe, accurately. Yes, the Koran indeed authorises men to beat their wives. Yes, it indeed calls for thieving hands to be chopped off.
What did Scot say that was false? The judge listed just two trivial examples, but also said Scot hadn’t made clear enough he was giving a literalist reading of the Koran that wasn’t mainstream.
Did he? Isn’t it? On such points, so deserving of debate, Scot was convicted of stating the wrong opinion.
This is the revisionist version of the decision which seems to be popular amongst some at the moment. In fact, Higgins felt that the laughter heard at numerous points on the tapes was an indication that the statements about Islam had been made in such a way so as to make the religion an object of fun. Similarly, the relevant test is whether the statements are calculated to incite hatred, serious ridicule against a person or group, not whether the person has told lies. As I have said below, if someone incites hatred against Indian people by calling them “darkies”, then it is no defence to say that their skin is in fact dark. If someone were to pull out Old Testament references to genocide, slavery and abuse and say that those verses represented true Christianity, it would be no defence to say that the verses were accurately quoted.
The chief executive of Equal Opportunity Victoria gives her defence of the laws and knocks down some of the straw man arguments that we have been seeing
It is clear, however, from the reaction of some to the Catch the Fire case that there is misunderstanding about the nature of unlawful religious vilification.
The type of behaviour covered by the act includes statements at meetings, in publications and on the internet. It is important to stress that the act deals with public behaviour not beliefs, nor what is said in private. Incitement is more than just merely holding a view or expressing an opinion, it is the encouragement or promotion of hatred towards others.
Racially stereotyping comments, offhand remarks or racist jokes are unlikely to be considered vilifying. For example, calling someone a “whingeing Pom”, a “happy clapper” or a “towel head” may be offensive but would not on its own be considered vilifying.
There are exceptions under the act that cover the work of artists, performers, journalists, academics and scientists, as long as that work is engaged in reasonably and in good faith. Discussing and debating issues such as immigration, multiculturalism and Aboriginal land rights is unlikely to be considered vilifying - nor is the publication or performance of artistic works that include cultural or ethnic stereotypes.
I can walk into a public library and find books offering a strong critique of various religions. Programs are regularly aired on television debating the cultural beliefs of specific racial groups or the beliefs of certain religions. These are not the subject of complaints to the commission, testimony to the fact that reasonable discussion about race, religion or traditions is not under threat.
There is a relatively small amount of babble on the blogs about the decision, although Rebecca, who has commented here has posted a good summary of her position in a guest post over at fridaysixpm (unfortunately can’t link to the post directly as the link seems to be broken, but posted on 27 June 2005. See also another Melbourne opinion by someone who may or may not have a job which qualifies him to give legal advice.

November 15th, 2005 at 7:48 am
ooooohhhhhhh…communists!!! I knew it! I knew it! It’s a communist plot…probably a communist Muslim plot!!
November 15th, 2005 at 7:58 am
Can we make it a Communist Muslim Facist Capitalist Plot? Canwecanwecanwe? I’ve always wanted one of those!!!
But seriously - well, semi-seriously, at least - if it were a communist plot, would that be so bad? I’ve always thought that it is sinful humans that make communism unworkable, not that communism itself is sinful. Not that Jesus was necessarily a redshirt, of course, but I always suspected that he might have been wearing a red bandanna under his prayer shawl…
November 15th, 2005 at 8:08 am
PS I like the way that the article Steve links to makes the subtle references to the anti-vilification laws as being part of the “anti-free speech”. I’m not a lawyer, but I have always understood that “free speech” has always been governed by the need to be able to back up one’s claims, or be guilty of slander or libel. The anti-vilification laws are based on the goal not of limiting free speech, but of limiting erroneous and slanderous speech which has the effect of vilifying others, in this case, another religion’s adherents.
Not that free speech is some sort of constitutional right in Australia anyway, as far as I know. But then that’s probably a communist plot too. Darn Commies.
November 17th, 2005 at 1:15 am
According to Professor Rudolph Rummel, former Nobel Prize nominee and author of Death By Government, Communist regimes killed over 100 million people in the 20th Century - several tens of millions more than all the nazis and fascists put together.
http://www.libertarian.org.au/blog/readArticle.jsp?articleID=2464000
Indeed, on any reliable quantitative grounds, Communism is far worse than Nazism, and any other ideological scourge in the history of mankind. Ipso facto, anybody who is a Communist sympathiser is morally inferior to neo-nazis and the KKK.
“I have always understood that “free speech” has always been governed by the need to be able to back up one’s claims, or be guilty of slander or libel.”
So perhaps you can explain why it is legal to collectively vilify people on the grounds of wealth or politics. Surely if you are serious about opposing the “incitement of hatred”, you would be prepared to advocate political and wealth vilification laws.
November 17th, 2005 at 1:59 pm
Is there not a difference between communism and the Soviet expression?
November 17th, 2005 at 2:08 pm
Ditto Steve.
By your reasoning Buddhists would be morally superior to Christians.
November 17th, 2005 at 3:35 pm
Then perhaps you can tell me who said this: “By their actions ye shall know them”.
March 13th, 2006 at 5:47 pm
lance,
“conservatives can’t think in terms of ‘nuances’.
Everything is black and white.”
You’ve just made a black and white statement on conservatives.
I like to think that I think in nuances. I believe in absolutes, but they are more like broad beams, and everything in between (most of life) is this mess, difficult to deal with and perplexing.
March 13th, 2006 at 8:57 pm
Making black and white statements about things on which there is no evidence to the contrary doesn’t suggest an inability on my part to think in nuances.
It suggests an ability to state the bleeding obvious.
Conservatives sing from the same hymn book of beliefs with remarkable one-and-the-sameness.