Comments on: The power of your love http://www.signposts.org.au/2005/08/28/the-power-of-your-love/ musings from those on the journey Thu, 20 Nov 2008 03:14:11 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Gwen http://www.signposts.org.au/2005/08/28/the-power-of-your-love/#comment-141380 Gwen Sun, 11 Jun 2006 12:28:05 +0000 http://www.signposts.org.au/2005/08/28/the-power-of-your-love/#comment-141380 Geoff I hope you are still on line at some point..... I was very interested to read that you had changed your words to "Power of your love". A song assessment group has been set up in our church in order to compile a supplementary song book for worship. The original version of "power of your love" was rejected because we felt it was too man focused. We were wondering what you thought about the song (this is not one of yours) "Lord I lift your name on high" by Rick Founds? Geoff

I hope you are still on line at some point…..

I was very interested to read that you had changed your words to “Power of your love”. A song assessment group has been set up in our church in order to compile a supplementary song book for worship. The original version of “power of your love” was rejected because we felt it was too man focused.

We were wondering what you thought about the song (this is not one of yours) “Lord I lift your name on high” by Rick Founds?

]]> By: Lori http://www.signposts.org.au/2005/08/28/the-power-of-your-love/#comment-140054 Lori Sat, 27 May 2006 11:21:56 +0000 http://www.signposts.org.au/2005/08/28/the-power-of-your-love/#comment-140054 Hi Daisy - appreciate your comments - Its amazing as you go though some of this stuff and it feels like a very isolated place - and then you read of others who have the same comments and thoughts of similar experiences. It certainly does help - and thanks for posting -makes me think I must be tracking OK when I read similar stories., Hi Daisy - appreciate your comments -

Its amazing as you go though some of this stuff and it feels like a very isolated place - and then you read of others who have the same comments and thoughts of similar experiences.

It certainly does help - and thanks for posting -makes me think I must be tracking OK when I read similar stories.,

]]> By: Grace Required http://www.signposts.org.au/2005/08/28/the-power-of-your-love/#comment-140039 Grace Required Sat, 27 May 2006 09:21:53 +0000 http://www.signposts.org.au/2005/08/28/the-power-of-your-love/#comment-140039 Dear Daisy What a wonderful way of describing your walk. I do sense a peace for you and a rest in the Lord - even though we all have those days. Thanks for sharing it. Grace Dear Daisy
What a wonderful way of describing your walk. I do sense a peace for you and a rest in the Lord - even though we all have those days. Thanks for sharing it.

Grace

]]> By: Daisy http://www.signposts.org.au/2005/08/28/the-power-of-your-love/#comment-139987 Daisy Fri, 26 May 2006 14:23:04 +0000 http://www.signposts.org.au/2005/08/28/the-power-of-your-love/#comment-139987 Lori; You are not alone in your experience. I walked away from a HS type of church approx 2 years ago, after 21yrs attendance; presently attending a 'mainstream' and according to some attendees of the church I left 'worldly' church. This I find hysterically funny, so far I think I am the most worldly person I have come across..... But they would play non christain music over the sound system during a church garage sale. Funny stuff...... Anyway; 21yrs...not one phone call, months before we received a response that wasn't a heartless form letter, to the letter we sent explaining why we were leaving after 21yrs committed fellowship. Reason being I think they were terrified we would be honest; and thus they would need to be accountable for some issues that are currently being denied. I believe they will reap the whirlwind at some point. But justice is God's and so is His timing as his mercy and patience extend so much further than mans. I have stopped praying for lightening bolts....now just for His justice (on good days) I have since realised the 'friendships' I had were based on my ongoing church attendance..ouch! My ongoing commitment to the 'party political way of thinking'. I thought I was liked...just because I was likeable...silly naive me. I was liked if I behaved like a HS, robot, parrot. Not in any hurry to make new 'church' friends these days; not in a hurry to even attendance church much these days. I feel quite isolated and when I try to communicate my experience, it is minimised...trivialised others often miss the gravity of what I am saying and what I am not saying.....many Christians dont really get (or dont want to get) spiritual abuse and the dreadful expressions /outcomes it can have on families. That's ok; we all walk our own walks... However, I have begun to made some significant relationships with people who do not believe but are great people with hearts of social justice. I have relaxed.....not my internal values, but my idea that I can not have deep friendships or relationships with people who do not share my values. I have relaxed.....not in such a hurry to 'share' my values. I hope they can be seen..... I have days when I BELIEVE and days when I DOUBT. 'Faith' is much more complicated for me these days.....so I just try (sometimes unsuccessfully) to rest in His faithfulness. So in short Lori, you are welcome and you are not alone. Struggle, Doubt, hopefully Growth. I understand leaving the 'faith' some days its an hour to hour struggle. I believe....hang on do I....it is true...its true.... is it. I dont know if that helps you Lori or anyone else out there for that matter. But I hope it might. Please withhold the temptation to slam me with a sermon in response people, believe me I have heard a million!!! Well a lot anyway...... Lori;
You are not alone in your experience. I walked away from a HS type of church approx 2 years ago, after 21yrs attendance; presently attending a ‘mainstream’ and according to some attendees of the church I left ‘worldly’ church. This I find hysterically funny, so far I think I am the most worldly person I have come across….. But they would play non christain music over the sound system during a church garage sale. Funny stuff……
Anyway; 21yrs…not one phone call, months before we received a response that wasn’t a heartless form letter, to the letter we sent explaining why we were leaving after 21yrs committed fellowship. Reason being I think they were terrified we would be honest; and thus they would need to be accountable for some issues that are currently being denied. I believe they will reap the whirlwind at some point. But justice is God’s and so is His timing as his mercy and patience extend so much further than mans. I have stopped praying for lightening bolts….now just for His justice (on good days)
I have since realised the ‘friendships’ I had were based on my ongoing church attendance..ouch! My ongoing commitment to the ‘party political way of thinking’. I thought I was liked…just because I was likeable…silly naive me. I was liked if I behaved like a HS, robot, parrot.
Not in any hurry to make new ‘church’ friends these days; not in a hurry to even attendance church much these days. I feel quite isolated and when I try to communicate my experience, it is minimised…trivialised others often miss the gravity of what I am saying and what I am not saying…..many Christians dont really get (or dont want to get) spiritual abuse and the dreadful expressions /outcomes it can have on families. That’s ok; we all walk our own walks…
However, I have begun to made some significant relationships with people who do not believe but are great people with hearts of social justice.
I have relaxed…..not my internal values, but my idea that I can not have deep friendships or relationships with people who do not share my values.
I have relaxed…..not in such a hurry to ’share’ my values. I hope they can be seen….. I have days when I BELIEVE and days when I DOUBT. ‘Faith’ is much more complicated for me these days…..so I just try (sometimes unsuccessfully) to rest in His faithfulness. So in short Lori, you are welcome and you are not alone. Struggle, Doubt, hopefully Growth. I understand leaving the ‘faith’ some days its an hour to hour struggle. I believe….hang on do I….it is true…its true…. is it. I dont know if that helps you Lori or anyone else out there for that matter. But I hope it might. Please withhold the temptation to slam me with a sermon in response people, believe me I have heard a million!!! Well a lot anyway……

]]> By: Geoff Bullock http://www.signposts.org.au/2005/08/28/the-power-of-your-love/#comment-139958 Geoff Bullock Fri, 26 May 2006 07:29:48 +0000 http://www.signposts.org.au/2005/08/28/the-power-of-your-love/#comment-139958 God bless you Sister Clarice God bless you Sister Clarice

]]> By: Clarice http://www.signposts.org.au/2005/08/28/the-power-of-your-love/#comment-139894 Clarice Thu, 25 May 2006 22:19:32 +0000 http://www.signposts.org.au/2005/08/28/the-power-of-your-love/#comment-139894 Dear son of Jesus I am so touched by your spirits in the Lord. You are to be in heaven when you past away and live eternally, peacefully, with God. Keep up the beliefs and effort. Do not be dicouraged in any way for this is the path that Jesus is leading you to and is meant to be followed. Sister Clarice Dear son of Jesus
I am so touched by your spirits in the Lord. You are to be in heaven when you past away and live eternally, peacefully, with God. Keep up the beliefs and effort. Do not be dicouraged in any way for this is the path that Jesus is leading you to and is meant to be followed.
Sister Clarice

]]> By: Janet McKinney http://www.signposts.org.au/2005/08/28/the-power-of-your-love/#comment-139393 Janet McKinney Tue, 23 May 2006 00:04:10 +0000 http://www.signposts.org.au/2005/08/28/the-power-of-your-love/#comment-139393 Welcome Piask I too appreciate the words that Geoff has rewritten to a number of his songs. It seems to be just little changes which totally change the viewpoint of the song - more of what God does for me than what I can do for God. God bless you as you search for His meaning and blessing in your life. Janet McKinney Welcome Piask

I too appreciate the words that Geoff has rewritten to a number of his songs. It seems to be just little changes which totally change the viewpoint of the song - more of what God does for me than what I can do for God.

God bless you as you search for His meaning and blessing in your life.

Janet McKinney

]]> By: Piask http://www.signposts.org.au/2005/08/28/the-power-of-your-love/#comment-139355 Piask Mon, 22 May 2006 12:40:28 +0000 http://www.signposts.org.au/2005/08/28/the-power-of-your-love/#comment-139355 Hi all. I just read through this entire thread, while searching the net for Geoff's lyrics. Thank you all for sharing your hearts. Thank you, Geoff for the lines:<em>This redefining process is very overdue and, I hope, will continue to challenge our unquestioning acceptance of all that is “popular” and “successful”. </em> I was searching, because faced with a Danish translation of "The power of your love", I was disturbed by some of the lyrics. I really, REALLY appreciate your encoragement to question, because for the longest time, I have felt really alone, when I (quite often) questioned the message of some of the songs people expected me to lead them in singing... It's so nice to realize that others are "out there" questioning!!! So thank you, Geoff, for that! And hope and peace and all good from the heart of Jesus to all of you on your journey ahead - looking forward to visiting here again! Hi all. I just read through this entire thread, while searching the net for Geoff’s lyrics. Thank you all for sharing your hearts. Thank you, Geoff for the lines:This redefining process is very overdue and, I hope, will continue to challenge our unquestioning acceptance of all that is “popular” and “successful”. I was searching, because faced with a Danish translation of “The power of your love”, I was disturbed by some of the lyrics. I really, REALLY appreciate your encoragement to question, because for the longest time, I have felt really alone, when I (quite often) questioned the message of some of the songs people expected me to lead them in singing… It’s so nice to realize that others are “out there” questioning!!! So thank you, Geoff, for that! And hope and peace and all good from the heart of Jesus to all of you on your journey ahead - looking forward to visiting here again!

]]> By: Lori http://www.signposts.org.au/2005/08/28/the-power-of-your-love/#comment-138528 Lori Thu, 18 May 2006 10:50:21 +0000 http://www.signposts.org.au/2005/08/28/the-power-of-your-love/#comment-138528 Geoff - yes I did hang in and thanks for your comments and interest. Will definitely give you a shout if I need to! Nice to feel welcome and less of a persona non grata - at the very least in cyberspace.. Grace - you're right about the refreshing exercise of getting rid of the junk - deconstructing the set of values you have chosen to live by and examining which you now choose to keep or discard is both liberating and scary. Hope a lot more people get to see the words of your song, they speak from the heart. Thanks for posting the song. Geoff - yes I did hang in and thanks for your comments and interest. Will definitely give you a shout if I need to! Nice to feel welcome and less of a persona non grata - at the very least in cyberspace..

Grace - you’re right about the refreshing exercise of getting rid of the junk - deconstructing the set of values you have chosen to live by and examining which you now choose to keep or discard is both liberating and scary.

Hope a lot more people get to see the words of your song, they speak from the heart. Thanks for posting the song.

]]> By: blestpickle http://www.signposts.org.au/2005/08/28/the-power-of-your-love/#comment-138199 blestpickle Wed, 17 May 2006 05:38:06 +0000 http://www.signposts.org.au/2005/08/28/the-power-of-your-love/#comment-138199 Thank you grace. That is a gift to us all Thank you grace. That is a gift to us all

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