Comments on: A referral and a conversation starter http://www.signposts.org.au/2005/12/30/a-referral-and-a-conversation-starter/ musings from those on the journey Thu, 27 Nov 2008 02:16:44 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: georgetee.com » Blog Archive » Earn Money through Blogs - ” A referral and a conversation starter ” ” Blog Archive ” Signposts http://www.signposts.org.au/2005/12/30/a-referral-and-a-conversation-starter/#comment-122547 georgetee.com » Blog Archive » Earn Money through Blogs - ” A referral and a conversation starter ” ” Blog Archive ” Signposts Mon, 16 Jan 2006 22:32:52 +0000 http://www.signposts.org.au/2005/12/30/a-referral-and-a-conversation-starter/#comment-122547 [...] nversation starter ” ” Blog Archive ” Signposts ” A referral and a conversation starter ” [...] […] nversation starter ” ” Blog Archive ” Signposts ” A referral and a conversation starter ” […]

]]> By: phil http://www.signposts.org.au/2005/12/30/a-referral-and-a-conversation-starter/#comment-121176 phil Fri, 06 Jan 2006 23:17:08 +0000 http://www.signposts.org.au/2005/12/30/a-referral-and-a-conversation-starter/#comment-121176 All registered charity non-profits have the same benefit whether religious or not. All registered charity non-profits have the same benefit whether religious or not.

]]> By: kierengreen http://www.signposts.org.au/2005/12/30/a-referral-and-a-conversation-starter/#comment-121175 kierengreen Fri, 06 Jan 2006 23:06:16 +0000 http://www.signposts.org.au/2005/12/30/a-referral-and-a-conversation-starter/#comment-121175 The FBT exemptions available to "ministers of religion" as defined under taxation ruling tr 92/17 are explicity related to the religious and pastoral care nature of pastors. I don't think this type of activity should attract tax exemptions. Activity relating to community benefit should, no matter who performs it. The FBT exemptions available to “ministers of religion” as defined under taxation ruling tr 92/17 are explicity related to the religious and pastoral care nature of pastors.

I don’t think this type of activity should attract tax exemptions.

Activity relating to community benefit should, no matter who performs it.

]]> By: phil http://www.signposts.org.au/2005/12/30/a-referral-and-a-conversation-starter/#comment-121172 phil Fri, 06 Jan 2006 22:32:01 +0000 http://www.signposts.org.au/2005/12/30/a-referral-and-a-conversation-starter/#comment-121172 They do. All non-profits that are registered charities get the same "generous tax concessions for their workers". They do. All non-profits that are registered charities get the same “generous tax concessions for their workers”.

]]> By: kierengreen http://www.signposts.org.au/2005/12/30/a-referral-and-a-conversation-starter/#comment-121132 kierengreen Fri, 06 Jan 2006 13:08:41 +0000 http://www.signposts.org.au/2005/12/30/a-referral-and-a-conversation-starter/#comment-121132 Just an afterthought - why should religious organisations receive generous tax concessions for their workers? Is it becaus they perform valued community work? If so, then an atheist organisation, or any organisation, that provides similarly valued services to the community should receive similar tax benefits. Just an afterthought - why should religious organisations receive generous tax concessions for their workers?

Is it becaus they perform valued community work?

If so, then an atheist organisation, or any organisation, that provides similarly valued services to the community should receive similar tax benefits.

]]> By: Bec http://www.signposts.org.au/2005/12/30/a-referral-and-a-conversation-starter/#comment-121093 Bec Fri, 06 Jan 2006 04:58:06 +0000 http://www.signposts.org.au/2005/12/30/a-referral-and-a-conversation-starter/#comment-121093 sorry - you've lost me - I have no idea re: post 51...can you rephrase? thanks! sorry - you’ve lost me - I have no idea re: post 51…can you rephrase? thanks!

]]> By: greenman http://www.signposts.org.au/2005/12/30/a-referral-and-a-conversation-starter/#comment-121086 greenman Fri, 06 Jan 2006 04:15:42 +0000 http://www.signposts.org.au/2005/12/30/a-referral-and-a-conversation-starter/#comment-121086 Bec I believe I was referring to his extension activities, which are also a valuable activity and which are represented by his postings on Livingroom since that was the express purpose of Livingroom originally. Bec

I believe I was referring to his extension activities, which are also a valuable activity and which are represented by his postings on Livingroom since that was the express purpose of Livingroom originally.

]]> By: » Economics and the Emerging Church » emerging church research » Blog Archive » Spirituality, Technology, Emerging Ecclesiology http://www.signposts.org.au/2005/12/30/a-referral-and-a-conversation-starter/#comment-120816 » Economics and the Emerging Church » emerging church research » Blog Archive » Spirituality, Technology, Emerging Ecclesiology Wed, 04 Jan 2006 03:56:22 +0000 http://www.signposts.org.au/2005/12/30/a-referral-and-a-conversation-starter/#comment-120816 [...] tions the economic status of the emerging church. While at Signposts, they are discussing pastoral pay – another econ [...] […] tions the economic status of the emerging church. While at Signposts, they are discussing pastoral pay – another econ […]

]]> By: Bec http://www.signposts.org.au/2005/12/30/a-referral-and-a-conversation-starter/#comment-120797 Bec Wed, 04 Jan 2006 00:27:37 +0000 http://www.signposts.org.au/2005/12/30/a-referral-and-a-conversation-starter/#comment-120797 I'm not qualified to comment on whether or not his work has compromised his ability to be a caring and capable minister. As I suggested above, I'd query whether posting less on LivingRoom is indicative of a lesser commitment to his ministry or church: http://www.livingroom.org.au/blog/archives/the_state_of_the_god_blogging_community.php "Questionable practices on the net"? How so? I’m not qualified to comment on whether or not his work has compromised his ability to be a caring and capable minister.

As I suggested above, I’d query whether posting less on LivingRoom is indicative of a lesser commitment to his ministry or church: http://www.livingroom.org.au/blog/archives/the_state_of_the_god_blogging_community.php

“Questionable practices on the net”? How so?

]]> By: Greenman http://www.signposts.org.au/2005/12/30/a-referral-and-a-conversation-starter/#comment-120796 Greenman Wed, 04 Jan 2006 00:04:08 +0000 http://www.signposts.org.au/2005/12/30/a-referral-and-a-conversation-starter/#comment-120796 I can't find it now either and in fairness to Darren it may have been a misquote by the paper. It is really a side issue. The central issue is that his is making big money on the net by working over 12 hours per day posting to his money making blogs. In spite of the fact that some of his practices on the net are questionable, I have no problem with this choice per se, it is his to make and good luck to him. It is difficult to imagine a scenario, however, where working 12 hours per day 7 days per week on his money making activities would not impact his commitment to his ministry and I used the example of his posts on Livingroom to support this proposition. The point of the post was that his desire for wealth, whilst entirely acceptible, is incompatible with the level of commitment to his church that he once displayed and that this is a loss to the church since he gave the impression of being a careing and capable minister. I can’t find it now either and in fairness to Darren it may have been a misquote by the paper. It is really a side issue. The central issue is that his is making big money on the net by working over 12 hours per day posting to his money making blogs. In spite of the fact that some of his practices on the net are questionable, I have no problem with this choice per se, it is his to make and good luck to him. It is difficult to imagine a scenario, however, where working 12 hours per day 7 days per week on his money making activities would not impact his commitment to his ministry and I used the example of his posts on Livingroom to support this proposition.

The point of the post was that his desire for wealth, whilst entirely acceptible, is incompatible with the level of commitment to his church that he once displayed and that this is a loss to the church since he gave the impression of being a careing and capable minister.

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