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	<title>Comments on: The Da Vinci Code ruckus</title>
	<link>http://www.signposts.org.au/2006/06/17/the-da-vinci-code-ruckus/</link>
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		<title>By: abtruth</title>
		<link>http://www.signposts.org.au/2006/06/17/the-da-vinci-code-ruckus/#comment-141916</link>
		<dc:creator>abtruth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 10:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.signposts.org.au/2006/06/17/the-da-vinci-code-ruckus/#comment-141916</guid>
		<description>oooooooooooo yeah i love being provoked!

i was thinking that because you can't prove the non existence of God ...therefore... non belief in God is an exercise of faith - not the other way around</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oooooooooooo yeah i love being provoked!</p>
<p>i was thinking that because you can&#8217;t prove the non existence of God &#8230;therefore&#8230; non belief in God is an exercise of faith - not the other way around</p>
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		<title>By: Greg the explorer</title>
		<link>http://www.signposts.org.au/2006/06/17/the-da-vinci-code-ruckus/#comment-141903</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg the explorer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 06:14:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.signposts.org.au/2006/06/17/the-da-vinci-code-ruckus/#comment-141903</guid>
		<description>Yes that ius true - lot's of people believe that God exists but don;t plavce their faith in him - so I guess all I can say is...I was trying to provoke you ...!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes that ius true - lot&#8217;s of people believe that God exists but don;t plavce their faith in him - so I guess all I can say is&#8230;I was trying to provoke you &#8230;!</p>
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		<title>By: abtruth</title>
		<link>http://www.signposts.org.au/2006/06/17/the-da-vinci-code-ruckus/#comment-141896</link>
		<dc:creator>abtruth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 05:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.signposts.org.au/2006/06/17/the-da-vinci-code-ruckus/#comment-141896</guid>
		<description>belief in and faith in are different animals</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>belief in and faith in are different animals</p>
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		<title>By: abtruth</title>
		<link>http://www.signposts.org.au/2006/06/17/the-da-vinci-code-ruckus/#comment-141895</link>
		<dc:creator>abtruth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 05:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.signposts.org.au/2006/06/17/the-da-vinci-code-ruckus/#comment-141895</guid>
		<description>can you believe and not have faith?

i believe in John howard (i don't 'hope' or have faith that he exists) yet do i have faith in him to have all australians best interests at heart?


i believe you can logically prove that 'a God' of some sort exists and no faith for that is required, but i have faith that he is described acuratley in the Bible and that he will do what the Bible says he will do... 

I have faith in Christ yet cannot logically prove his existence.. (there is of course evidence of a documentary basis which is could be argued provides proof beyond a reasonable doubt but this is different)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>can you believe and not have faith?</p>
<p>i believe in John howard (i don&#8217;t &#8216;hope&#8217; or have faith that he exists) yet do i have faith in him to have all australians best interests at heart?</p>
<p>i believe you can logically prove that &#8216;a God&#8217; of some sort exists and no faith for that is required, but i have faith that he is described acuratley in the Bible and that he will do what the Bible says he will do&#8230; </p>
<p>I have faith in Christ yet cannot logically prove his existence.. (there is of course evidence of a documentary basis which is could be argued provides proof beyond a reasonable doubt but this is different)</p>
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		<title>By: Greg the explorer</title>
		<link>http://www.signposts.org.au/2006/06/17/the-da-vinci-code-ruckus/#comment-141888</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg the explorer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 05:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.signposts.org.au/2006/06/17/the-da-vinci-code-ruckus/#comment-141888</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;em&gt;...we can all see plain as day and with pure logic. Christians don’t have to have faith that God exists...&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Blessed are you who believe and yet have not seen...isn;t that what Jesus said?  Of course you ahve to have faith that God exists - a being that is whithout beginning or end?  Not need faith - you're kidding right?  A being that we can;t see, feel, smell or imagine?  Not need faith?  You're joking me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><em>&#8230;we can all see plain as day and with pure logic. Christians don’t have to have faith that God exists&#8230;</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Blessed are you who believe and yet have not seen&#8230;isn;t that what Jesus said?  Of course you ahve to have faith that God exists - a being that is whithout beginning or end?  Not need faith - you&#8217;re kidding right?  A being that we can;t see, feel, smell or imagine?  Not need faith?  You&#8217;re joking me!</p>
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		<title>By: abtruth</title>
		<link>http://www.signposts.org.au/2006/06/17/the-da-vinci-code-ruckus/#comment-141865</link>
		<dc:creator>abtruth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 12:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.signposts.org.au/2006/06/17/the-da-vinci-code-ruckus/#comment-141865</guid>
		<description>hey. i was trying to provoke you guys.. maybe i should resort to swearing like lance :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey. i was trying to provoke you guys.. maybe i should resort to swearing like lance <img src='http://www.signposts.org.au/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: abtruth</title>
		<link>http://www.signposts.org.au/2006/06/17/the-da-vinci-code-ruckus/#comment-141718</link>
		<dc:creator>abtruth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jun 2006 12:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.signposts.org.au/2006/06/17/the-da-vinci-code-ruckus/#comment-141718</guid>
		<description>you have all got to be kidding

we are obliged to give a reason for the faith that we hold (an apologetic) and this includes exposing and refuting heresy and lies when we see it... if this were not true we should not say anything about Gnosticism and just let every one get sucked in.. or the prosperity heresy false arguements for tithing, the supremacy of Grace etc ... I would hate to have you guys on my side in a fight... Of course God doesnt need us to fight his fights for him but standing up for the truth is what he has commanded us to do!

God doesnt 'try' to prove he exists.. he does it so that we can all see plain as day and with pure logic. Christians don't have to have faith that God exists.. this is not Christianity, we know God exists but we have faith that he is willing and able to rescue us through his son. I know the brakes on my car exist but i have faith that they will stop the car when i am coming up to the traffic lights.

there are good and bad arguements against the Da Vinci Code but Jesus calls us to turn the other cheek not to stick our head in the sand</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you have all got to be kidding</p>
<p>we are obliged to give a reason for the faith that we hold (an apologetic) and this includes exposing and refuting heresy and lies when we see it&#8230; if this were not true we should not say anything about Gnosticism and just let every one get sucked in.. or the prosperity heresy false arguements for tithing, the supremacy of Grace etc &#8230; I would hate to have you guys on my side in a fight&#8230; Of course God doesnt need us to fight his fights for him but standing up for the truth is what he has commanded us to do!</p>
<p>God doesnt &#8216;try&#8217; to prove he exists.. he does it so that we can all see plain as day and with pure logic. Christians don&#8217;t have to have faith that God exists.. this is not Christianity, we know God exists but we have faith that he is willing and able to rescue us through his son. I know the brakes on my car exist but i have faith that they will stop the car when i am coming up to the traffic lights.</p>
<p>there are good and bad arguements against the Da Vinci Code but Jesus calls us to turn the other cheek not to stick our head in the sand</p>
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		<title>By: Janet</title>
		<link>http://www.signposts.org.au/2006/06/17/the-da-vinci-code-ruckus/#comment-141521</link>
		<dc:creator>Janet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jun 2006 03:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.signposts.org.au/2006/06/17/the-da-vinci-code-ruckus/#comment-141521</guid>
		<description>I think for many... our God is too small. It's up to us to save society, to save the world, to maintain the credibility of the faith and the church so that people will find Jesus. That God is powerful, sovereign, well able to reveal Himself, and that our only job is to obey Him and leave all else in His hands (if you'll pardon my sexist language) undermines our own sense of self importance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think for many&#8230; our God is too small. It&#8217;s up to us to save society, to save the world, to maintain the credibility of the faith and the church so that people will find Jesus. That God is powerful, sovereign, well able to reveal Himself, and that our only job is to obey Him and leave all else in His hands (if you&#8217;ll pardon my sexist language) undermines our own sense of self importance.</p>
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		<title>By: blestpickle</title>
		<link>http://www.signposts.org.au/2006/06/17/the-da-vinci-code-ruckus/#comment-141519</link>
		<dc:creator>blestpickle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jun 2006 21:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.signposts.org.au/2006/06/17/the-da-vinci-code-ruckus/#comment-141519</guid>
		<description>LOL! It's not our fault if politicians so abuse the language that a person can't say ordinary things without sounding like they're loading in all that garbage. I'm a pickle, not a prickle :) I don't offend that easily.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL! It&#8217;s not our fault if politicians so abuse the language that a person can&#8217;t say ordinary things without sounding like they&#8217;re loading in all that garbage. I&#8217;m a pickle, not a prickle <img src='http://www.signposts.org.au/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> I don&#8217;t offend that easily.</p>
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		<title>By: quietriot2</title>
		<link>http://www.signposts.org.au/2006/06/17/the-da-vinci-code-ruckus/#comment-141515</link>
		<dc:creator>quietriot2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jun 2006 15:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.signposts.org.au/2006/06/17/the-da-vinci-code-ruckus/#comment-141515</guid>
		<description>Sorry about that Bestpickle, I sound worse than John Howard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry about that Bestpickle, I sound worse than John Howard.</p>
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