Comments on: September 11

By: Roger

Roger — Mon, 25 Sep 2006 04:04:19 +0000

(AKA tbokar) Draining the Swamps

This article from an anti Vietnam war demonstrator, left leaning, female writer is also worth the time:

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20469179-7583,00.html

By: dan

dan — Fri, 15 Sep 2006 02:43:28 +0000

Tbokar, I hope that what you say is right, but at the moment I don’t see it happening like this.

By: Luke

Luke — Thu, 14 Sep 2006 08:00:55 +0000

Half the population? Sheesh….last time I looked at Bush’s approval rating it had a ‘2′ in front of it….

By: bec

bec — Thu, 14 Sep 2006 07:52:11 +0000

I wish I shared your positive outlook, tbokar.

By: tbokar

tbokar — Thu, 14 Sep 2006 07:17:25 +0000

Luke, you’re partially right, I am stirring (more of a prod really), but that said I do believe that so much will be made clear with the benefit of time. At this stage we are so in the thick of it that we find it difficult to see what is true and what is not. That is what Sheridan wrote about in his previous piece, which was, in fact, quite insightful (no bias).

Dan, I tend to speak up, partially because of the cacophony of the “Looney Left” element. Neither am I a “far right fanatical”, just a bloke who tries to make sense of it all in the context of a Christian understanding. It is my firm conviction that George Bush has set in motion a chain of events that will achieve stability in the Middle East, democracy to some of the oppressed nations, and some security for Israel. I think Islamic terrorism will be defeated and that State sponsors of terrorism and nuclear ambition will be brought to heel.

Surprisingly for some, there are many voices who share this view, probably about half the population. Time will tell whether this view was correct. I’ll schedule the debate for 2026.

By: dan

dan — Thu, 14 Sep 2006 06:38:37 +0000

Okay, not speaking on behalf of the looney left here, but would say that there are plenty of things that the conservatives could do which would not raise my ire. Frinstance, I disagree with the IR reforms, but I understand why they have been introduced and what the political impetus is. It doesn’t make me mad, even if it might make me want to get an alternative government.

Likewise, while I disagreed with a lot of George Bush Senior’s politics, there was nothing there that made me dislike him. But I seriously can’t agree with this idea about Dubya. Bush, by virtue of his circumstances, has had a huge impact on the rest of the world. Only he could make those choices, and only he will be held accountable or responsible for those decisions. Sheridan seems to think that Bush will be remembered for everything that can be spun as positive and that every disaster and cock up will be forgotten. I can’t see it myself.

By: Luke

Luke — Thu, 14 Sep 2006 06:30:24 +0000

I know you’re stirring, tbokar, but have to admit it’s at least as good as what preceded it, pre-existent bias notwithstanding.

By: tbokar

tbokar — Thu, 14 Sep 2006 06:12:42 +0000

With respect, superb is not the right superlative, it was rather weak and totally predictable. I did find some humour in there however.

By: Luke

Luke — Thu, 14 Sep 2006 04:40:22 +0000

And here’s a superb response.

http://www.roadtosurfdom.com/2006/09/14/bush-porn/

By: tbokar

tbokar — Thu, 14 Sep 2006 04:32:53 +0000

Mostly because I can’t resist poking a bee hive with a short stick, but also because I happen to agree, here’s another totally impartial piece from Mr Sheridan. Hope you guys don’t choke on your cornflakes
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20407585-25377,00.html