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	<title>Comments on: NT for Lent 17 - James 4</title>
	<link>http://www.signposts.org.au/2007/03/11/nt-for-lent-17-james-4/</link>
	<description>musings from those on the journey</description>
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		<title>By: Lionfish</title>
		<link>http://www.signposts.org.au/2007/03/11/nt-for-lent-17-james-4/#comment-158337</link>
		<dc:creator>Lionfish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.signposts.org.au/2007/03/11/nt-for-lent-17-james-4/#comment-158337</guid>
		<description>AHD Librrary Guy .... you apologised for a comment the otherday regarding "Lance and Lionfish will never be happy". No probs mate, I just wanted tomake sure th people understood my perspective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AHD Librrary Guy &#8230;. you apologised for a comment the otherday regarding &#8220;Lance and Lionfish will never be happy&#8221;. No probs mate, I just wanted tomake sure th people understood my perspective.</p>
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		<title>By: Lionfish</title>
		<link>http://www.signposts.org.au/2007/03/11/nt-for-lent-17-james-4/#comment-158334</link>
		<dc:creator>Lionfish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 08:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.signposts.org.au/2007/03/11/nt-for-lent-17-james-4/#comment-158334</guid>
		<description>No. If you want to know about me, then feel free to email me. I may even send you a photo.
Clan.mackenzie@bigpond.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No. If you want to know about me, then feel free to email me. I may even send you a photo.<br />
<a href="mailto:Clan.mackenzie@bigpond.com">Clan.mackenzie@bigpond.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Janet</title>
		<link>http://www.signposts.org.au/2007/03/11/nt-for-lent-17-james-4/#comment-158332</link>
		<dc:creator>Janet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 08:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.signposts.org.au/2007/03/11/nt-for-lent-17-james-4/#comment-158332</guid>
		<description>Grace... this is the third thread in which I've talked about this, but my head has been spinning around with some of Wolfgang Simpson's talks from the "Dangerous Stories II... Forge National Conference".

His thesis is that the institutional church as we know it is not what Jesus had in mind... that interlinked house churches based around homes is actually the most primitive (and authentic) expression of true church. He gave lots of illustrations about how these kinds of movements ("church" stripped down to its bare bones... clusters of no more than 16 people... ) are multiplying explosively around the world. He also believes half of the world's population will be reached for Christ by this "underground" movement.

So I'm musing about whether in the exodus of some people who love Jesus from the institutional church is God "seeding" something... these exiles have a disatisfaction with church as we have known it and a hunger for church as God intended it. Might God be birthing a missional house church movement in Australia too?

I don't know if that has any resonance with you, but I'd encourage you to listen to Wolfgang's tapes (or book) and see whether something in this speaks to you. I've posted the link to buy his talks... and others... in the "Dangerous Stories II" thread.

Let me know what you find!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grace&#8230; this is the third thread in which I&#8217;ve talked about this, but my head has been spinning around with some of Wolfgang Simpson&#8217;s talks from the &#8220;Dangerous Stories II&#8230; Forge National Conference&#8221;.</p>
<p>His thesis is that the institutional church as we know it is not what Jesus had in mind&#8230; that interlinked house churches based around homes is actually the most primitive (and authentic) expression of true church. He gave lots of illustrations about how these kinds of movements (&#8221;church&#8221; stripped down to its bare bones&#8230; clusters of no more than 16 people&#8230; ) are multiplying explosively around the world. He also believes half of the world&#8217;s population will be reached for Christ by this &#8220;underground&#8221; movement.</p>
<p>So I&#8217;m musing about whether in the exodus of some people who love Jesus from the institutional church is God &#8220;seeding&#8221; something&#8230; these exiles have a disatisfaction with church as we have known it and a hunger for church as God intended it. Might God be birthing a missional house church movement in Australia too?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if that has any resonance with you, but I&#8217;d encourage you to listen to Wolfgang&#8217;s tapes (or book) and see whether something in this speaks to you. I&#8217;ve posted the link to buy his talks&#8230; and others&#8230; in the &#8220;Dangerous Stories II&#8221; thread.</p>
<p>Let me know what you find!</p>
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		<title>By: dido</title>
		<link>http://www.signposts.org.au/2007/03/11/nt-for-lent-17-james-4/#comment-158322</link>
		<dc:creator>dido</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 04:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.signposts.org.au/2007/03/11/nt-for-lent-17-james-4/#comment-158322</guid>
		<description>hmm... methnks me knows of you. Have you ever been in a staff pastoral position in any WA church?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmm&#8230; methnks me knows of you. Have you ever been in a staff pastoral position in any WA church?</p>
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		<title>By: Lionfish</title>
		<link>http://www.signposts.org.au/2007/03/11/nt-for-lent-17-james-4/#comment-158320</link>
		<dc:creator>Lionfish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 04:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.signposts.org.au/2007/03/11/nt-for-lent-17-james-4/#comment-158320</guid>
		<description>No. Its Lionfish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No. Its Lionfish.</p>
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		<title>By: dido</title>
		<link>http://www.signposts.org.au/2007/03/11/nt-for-lent-17-james-4/#comment-158303</link>
		<dc:creator>dido</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 00:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.signposts.org.au/2007/03/11/nt-for-lent-17-james-4/#comment-158303</guid>
		<description>btw...LF, is your name Colin?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>btw&#8230;LF, is your name Colin?</p>
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		<title>By: dido</title>
		<link>http://www.signposts.org.au/2007/03/11/nt-for-lent-17-james-4/#comment-158299</link>
		<dc:creator>dido</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 22:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.signposts.org.au/2007/03/11/nt-for-lent-17-james-4/#comment-158299</guid>
		<description>Sorry, where did I say I was "Hillsong’s self appointed defender and ambassador to this site"?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, where did I say I was &#8220;Hillsong’s self appointed defender and ambassador to this site&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Lionfish</title>
		<link>http://www.signposts.org.au/2007/03/11/nt-for-lent-17-james-4/#comment-158284</link>
		<dc:creator>Lionfish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.signposts.org.au/2007/03/11/nt-for-lent-17-james-4/#comment-158284</guid>
		<description>One for you in response, Dido my dear ...

Ephesians 5:11 (New International Version)
   
11Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them.

As Hillsong's self appointed defender and ambassador to this site are you up to answering some questions ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One for you in response, Dido my dear &#8230;</p>
<p>Ephesians 5:11 (New International Version)</p>
<p>11Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them.</p>
<p>As Hillsong&#8217;s self appointed defender and ambassador to this site are you up to answering some questions ?</p>
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		<title>By: Lionfish</title>
		<link>http://www.signposts.org.au/2007/03/11/nt-for-lent-17-james-4/#comment-158283</link>
		<dc:creator>Lionfish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.signposts.org.au/2007/03/11/nt-for-lent-17-james-4/#comment-158283</guid>
		<description>Dido - just being facetious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dido - just being facetious.</p>
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		<title>By: dido</title>
		<link>http://www.signposts.org.au/2007/03/11/nt-for-lent-17-james-4/#comment-158277</link>
		<dc:creator>dido</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 10:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.signposts.org.au/2007/03/11/nt-for-lent-17-james-4/#comment-158277</guid>
		<description>"look to what is prasiseworthy..."

good call.

I guess Lionfish is stuffed then, because he only looks for what is (allegedly) dodgy.

"bout “female orgasms” in last Wednesday’s Bulletin article “Book of Revelations”…?

That is a really dirty, unchristian church that you defend."

Sorry... what is dirty about a female orgasm?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;look to what is prasiseworthy&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>good call.</p>
<p>I guess Lionfish is stuffed then, because he only looks for what is (allegedly) dodgy.</p>
<p>&#8220;bout “female orgasms” in last Wednesday’s Bulletin article “Book of Revelations”…?</p>
<p>That is a really dirty, unchristian church that you defend.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sorry&#8230; what is dirty about a female orgasm?</p>
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