Comments on: How to Fleece For Fun & Profit II http://www.signposts.org.au/2007/04/17/how-to-fleece-for-fun-profit-ii/ musings from those on the journey Sat, 22 Nov 2008 03:47:20 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: wakey74 http://www.signposts.org.au/2007/04/17/how-to-fleece-for-fun-profit-ii/#comment-176410 wakey74 Mon, 13 Aug 2007 00:02:23 +0000 http://www.signposts.org.au/2007/04/17/how-to-fleece-for-fun-profit-ii/#comment-176410 "The tax-fraud conviction Friday of the pastor of one of Birmingham’s largest churches may have reverberations in the way ministers accept and report gifts." "Churches that pay honorariums to visiting ministers routinely file a Form 1099, and the individuals are expected to claim it as income on their tax forms, Neptune said. “The IRS is going to classify that as income," Connor said. “It’s really for services that have been performed." In Clarke’s case, when churches paid him as a guest speaker and filed a Form 1099, he claimed it on his taxes, according to prosecutors during his trial. When churches didn’t file a 1099, he didn’t claim it as income." http://www.tuscaloosanews.com/article/20070723/NEWS/707230312/1007/RSS&source=RSS “The tax-fraud conviction Friday of the pastor of one of Birmingham’s largest churches may have reverberations in the way ministers accept and report gifts.”

“Churches that pay honorariums to visiting ministers routinely file a Form 1099, and the individuals are expected to claim it as income on their tax forms, Neptune said.

“The IRS is going to classify that as income,” Connor said. “It’s really for services that have been performed.”

In Clarke’s case, when churches paid him as a guest speaker and filed a Form 1099, he claimed it on his taxes, according to prosecutors during his trial. When churches didn’t file a 1099, he didn’t claim it as income.”

http://www.tuscaloosanews.com/article/20070723/NEWS/707230312/1007/RSS&source=RSS

]]> By: Asd http://www.signposts.org.au/2007/04/17/how-to-fleece-for-fun-profit-ii/#comment-161186 Asd Fri, 20 Apr 2007 06:02:47 +0000 http://www.signposts.org.au/2007/04/17/how-to-fleece-for-fun-profit-ii/#comment-161186 er, I did! er, I did!

]]> By: arti1234 http://www.signposts.org.au/2007/04/17/how-to-fleece-for-fun-profit-ii/#comment-161143 arti1234 Thu, 19 Apr 2007 08:43:29 +0000 http://www.signposts.org.au/2007/04/17/how-to-fleece-for-fun-profit-ii/#comment-161143 who said tourettes? who said tourettes?

]]> By: Asd http://www.signposts.org.au/2007/04/17/how-to-fleece-for-fun-profit-ii/#comment-161087 Asd Wed, 18 Apr 2007 06:31:55 +0000 http://www.signposts.org.au/2007/04/17/how-to-fleece-for-fun-profit-ii/#comment-161087 abtruth - I just assumed you had Tourettes. abtruth - I just assumed you had Tourettes.

]]> By: abtruth http://www.signposts.org.au/2007/04/17/how-to-fleece-for-fun-profit-ii/#comment-161085 abtruth Wed, 18 Apr 2007 06:21:39 +0000 http://www.signposts.org.au/2007/04/17/how-to-fleece-for-fun-profit-ii/#comment-161085 damn i hate it when my comment doesnt show then i do a cut down one and then my original one shows.......!!!!!!! damn i hate it when my comment doesnt show then i do a cut down one and then my original one shows…….!!!!!!!

]]> By: abtruth http://www.signposts.org.au/2007/04/17/how-to-fleece-for-fun-profit-ii/#comment-161084 abtruth Wed, 18 Apr 2007 06:19:02 +0000 http://www.signposts.org.au/2007/04/17/how-to-fleece-for-fun-profit-ii/#comment-161084 thats a shame about CRI let it not be said that we just call for financial accountability from the theological freaks thats a shame about CRI

let it not be said that we just call for financial accountability from the theological freaks

]]> By: abtruth http://www.signposts.org.au/2007/04/17/how-to-fleece-for-fun-profit-ii/#comment-161081 abtruth Wed, 18 Apr 2007 06:16:03 +0000 http://www.signposts.org.au/2007/04/17/how-to-fleece-for-fun-profit-ii/#comment-161081 Thats a shame about CRI .. but HH should be hung out to dry if all allegations are true... and they look plauseable .. if he doesn't make amends. let it not be said that we don't call for accountability from all in Christian leadership no matter what side of the theological fence they sit Thats a shame about CRI .. but HH should be hung out to dry if all allegations are true… and they look plauseable .. if he doesn’t make amends.

let it not be said that we don’t call for accountability from all in Christian leadership no matter what side of the theological fence they sit

]]> By: abtruth http://www.signposts.org.au/2007/04/17/how-to-fleece-for-fun-profit-ii/#comment-161082 abtruth Wed, 18 Apr 2007 06:15:58 +0000 http://www.signposts.org.au/2007/04/17/how-to-fleece-for-fun-profit-ii/#comment-161082 Thats a shame about CRI .. but HH should be hung out to dry if all allegations are true... and they look plauseable .. if he doesn't make amends. let it not be said that we don't call for accountability from all in Christian leadership no matter what side of the theological fence they sit Thats a shame about CRI .. but HH should be hung out to dry if all allegations are true… and they look plauseable .. if he doesn’t make amends.

let it not be said that we don’t call for accountability from all in Christian leadership no matter what side of the theological fence they sit

]]> By: wakey74 http://www.signposts.org.au/2007/04/17/how-to-fleece-for-fun-profit-ii/#comment-161079 wakey74 Wed, 18 Apr 2007 05:44:58 +0000 http://www.signposts.org.au/2007/04/17/how-to-fleece-for-fun-profit-ii/#comment-161079 You could always use the "post office lost your donations so send us more money" effort that CRI tried a few years ago http://www.cultlink.com/news/CRIfraud.htm The defermation suit brought by CRI was just thrown out http://www.apologeticsindex.org/515-hank-hanegraaff-lawsuit-thrown-out-of-court You could always use the “post office lost your donations so send us more money” effort that CRI tried a few years ago
http://www.cultlink.com/news/CRIfraud.htm

The defermation suit brought by CRI was just thrown out
http://www.apologeticsindex.org/515-hank-hanegraaff-lawsuit-thrown-out-of-court

]]> By: Asd http://www.signposts.org.au/2007/04/17/how-to-fleece-for-fun-profit-ii/#comment-161077 Asd Wed, 18 Apr 2007 05:37:51 +0000 http://www.signposts.org.au/2007/04/17/how-to-fleece-for-fun-profit-ii/#comment-161077 My church isn't big on prophesy so I have to ask - is that an example of prophesy in the modern Christian Church? Because I am apalled. All the statements cannot be rebutted 'because they are yet to occur'. That's not prophesy, that's science fiction. Fame before souls? What is the difference between 'WE win and the devil looses' and 'YOU win and the devil looses'. Who is the WE and who is the YOU? Looks like he phucked up his alliterations as well - instead of the soft 'ph' of physicians he needed the hard 'p' of perverts, protstitutes or proctologists to complete the sentence. The writing is on the wall alright. How about this for a prophesy 'Mene Mene Tekel Uparsin'? And that's one you can take to the bank. My church isn’t big on prophesy so I have to ask - is that an example of prophesy in the modern Christian Church?

Because I am apalled.

All the statements cannot be rebutted ‘because they are yet to occur’. That’s not prophesy, that’s science fiction.

Fame before souls?

What is the difference between ‘WE win and the devil looses’ and ‘YOU win and the devil looses’. Who is the WE and who is the YOU?

Looks like he phucked up his alliterations as well - instead of the soft ‘ph’ of physicians he needed the hard ‘p’ of perverts, protstitutes or proctologists to complete the sentence.

The writing is on the wall alright. How about this for a prophesy ‘Mene Mene Tekel Uparsin’? And that’s one you can take to the bank.

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