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	<title>Comments on: the spiritual danger of wealth</title>
	<link>http://www.signposts.org.au/2007/06/16/the-spiritual-danger-of-wealth/</link>
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		<title>By: Janet</title>
		<link>http://www.signposts.org.au/2007/06/16/the-spiritual-danger-of-wealth/#comment-168339</link>
		<dc:creator>Janet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 09:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.signposts.org.au/2007/06/16/the-spiritual-danger-of-wealth/#comment-168339</guid>
		<description>"There is no reason why a person who makes $200,000 should live any differently from the way a person who makes $80,000 lives. Find a wartime lifestyle; cap your expenditures; then give the rest away."

Is living on $80 000 considered a "wartime lifestyle" these days? (My parents lived through world war II and they recall saving up ration coupons of rice and sugar to make a special rice pudding) These were two unfortunate sentences to link!!!

Which just reflects what is "rich" is a very relative / elastic term.

I'm just intrigued how one can earn $200 000. (Only so I can give $120 000 away of course and struggle by on a mere $80 000.) Any ideas?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There is no reason why a person who makes $200,000 should live any differently from the way a person who makes $80,000 lives. Find a wartime lifestyle; cap your expenditures; then give the rest away.&#8221;</p>
<p>Is living on $80 000 considered a &#8220;wartime lifestyle&#8221; these days? (My parents lived through world war II and they recall saving up ration coupons of rice and sugar to make a special rice pudding) These were two unfortunate sentences to link!!!</p>
<p>Which just reflects what is &#8220;rich&#8221; is a very relative / elastic term.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just intrigued how one can earn $200 000. (Only so I can give $120 000 away of course and struggle by on a mere $80 000.) Any ideas?</p>
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		<title>By: Greg the explorer</title>
		<link>http://www.signposts.org.au/2007/06/16/the-spiritual-danger-of-wealth/#comment-168326</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg the explorer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 08:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.signposts.org.au/2007/06/16/the-spiritual-danger-of-wealth/#comment-168326</guid>
		<description>and I meant &lt;em&gt; fo snizzle my nizzle &lt;/em&gt;- dizzle indeed - how embarrasment!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and I meant <em> fo snizzle my nizzle </em>- dizzle indeed - how embarrasment!</p>
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		<title>By: Greg the explorer</title>
		<link>http://www.signposts.org.au/2007/06/16/the-spiritual-danger-of-wealth/#comment-168325</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg the explorer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 08:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.signposts.org.au/2007/06/16/the-spiritual-danger-of-wealth/#comment-168325</guid>
		<description>&lt;a href="http://bp0.blogger.com/_tIK3fq8qZ3M/Rl-gXROaS4I/AAAAAAAAA48/3HIT_neZEjo/s1600-h/Sale+Ends+Today-+banksy.gif" rel="nofollow"&gt;Who or What do we worship&lt;/a&gt;

and 

&lt;a href="http://religiousimagery.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow"&gt;religious imagery in culture&lt;/a&gt;

give that a go</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://bp0.blogger.com/_tIK3fq8qZ3M/Rl-gXROaS4I/AAAAAAAAA48/3HIT_neZEjo/s1600-h/Sale+Ends+Today-+banksy.gif" rel="nofollow">Who or What do we worship</a></p>
<p>and </p>
<p><a href="http://religiousimagery.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">religious imagery in culture</a></p>
<p>give that a go</p>
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		<title>By: Greg the explorer</title>
		<link>http://www.signposts.org.au/2007/06/16/the-spiritual-danger-of-wealth/#comment-168323</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg the explorer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 08:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.signposts.org.au/2007/06/16/the-spiritual-danger-of-wealth/#comment-168323</guid>
		<description>I loved snoop dogg doing the passion of the christ! &lt;a href="http://bp1.blogger.com/_tIK3fq8qZ3M/Rik--iiI3xI/AAAAAAAAAl4/nuJSU2cx6wY/s1600-h/pazzle.jpg" rel="nofollow"&gt;The Pazzle of the Chrizle&lt;/a&gt; fo snizzle my dizzle!  Word</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved snoop dogg doing the passion of the christ! <a href="http://bp1.blogger.com/_tIK3fq8qZ3M/Rik--iiI3xI/AAAAAAAAAl4/nuJSU2cx6wY/s1600-h/pazzle.jpg" rel="nofollow">The Pazzle of the Chrizle</a> fo snizzle my dizzle!  Word</p>
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		<title>By: Greg the explorer</title>
		<link>http://www.signposts.org.au/2007/06/16/the-spiritual-danger-of-wealth/#comment-168321</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg the explorer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 08:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.signposts.org.au/2007/06/16/the-spiritual-danger-of-wealth/#comment-168321</guid>
		<description>&lt;a&gt;Who or what do we worship?&lt;/a&gt;  This image from &lt;a&gt;religious imagery in culture&lt;/a&gt;is quite apt I think!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a>Who or what do we worship?</a>  This image from <a>religious imagery in culture</a>is quite apt I think!</p>
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		<title>By: Greg the explorer</title>
		<link>http://www.signposts.org.au/2007/06/16/the-spiritual-danger-of-wealth/#comment-168300</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg the explorer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 07:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.signposts.org.au/2007/06/16/the-spiritual-danger-of-wealth/#comment-168300</guid>
		<description>having said that, I can sometimes be good - but me...never!

I don;t think that money is a neutral thing either - people say it is to justify their pursuit of it.  We live in a world where it is impossible (for most of us unless you live in a village in Africa or South America) to live without money and so we are tainted all the time by the call for more money to do more things to achieve more and to live better.  

I say let's challenge the consumer driven mentality of this world that we find ourselves living in.  There is a cafe in melbourne (three of them actually)&lt;a href="http://www.lentilasanything.com/" rel="nofollow"&gt; Lentil as Anything &lt;/a&gt; that doesn;t charge a set price for it's meals or drinks - it asks people to struggle with their own consciences in order to arrive at a suitable payment - Where are the Christian places doing this?  

Money is not good - anything that divides people by virtue of how much fo it youi have is not good - and if you don;t ahve much money you can't do as much as other people who have heaps of it - in fact the less you have the less influencial you are - name one person living in poverty who is in any position of power in the western world?

Money is not neutral.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>having said that, I can sometimes be good - but me&#8230;never!</p>
<p>I don;t think that money is a neutral thing either - people say it is to justify their pursuit of it.  We live in a world where it is impossible (for most of us unless you live in a village in Africa or South America) to live without money and so we are tainted all the time by the call for more money to do more things to achieve more and to live better.  </p>
<p>I say let&#8217;s challenge the consumer driven mentality of this world that we find ourselves living in.  There is a cafe in melbourne (three of them actually)<a href="http://www.lentilasanything.com/" rel="nofollow"> Lentil as Anything </a> that doesn;t charge a set price for it&#8217;s meals or drinks - it asks people to struggle with their own consciences in order to arrive at a suitable payment - Where are the Christian places doing this?  </p>
<p>Money is not good - anything that divides people by virtue of how much fo it youi have is not good - and if you don;t ahve much money you can&#8217;t do as much as other people who have heaps of it - in fact the less you have the less influencial you are - name one person living in poverty who is in any position of power in the western world?</p>
<p>Money is not neutral.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg the explorer</title>
		<link>http://www.signposts.org.au/2007/06/16/the-spiritual-danger-of-wealth/#comment-168295</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg the explorer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 07:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.signposts.org.au/2007/06/16/the-spiritual-danger-of-wealth/#comment-168295</guid>
		<description>Peter Jensen can sometimes be good - Philip never</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter Jensen can sometimes be good - Philip never</p>
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		<title>By: Bring Back EP at LP</title>
		<link>http://www.signposts.org.au/2007/06/16/the-spiritual-danger-of-wealth/#comment-168170</link>
		<dc:creator>Bring Back EP at LP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 01:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.signposts.org.au/2007/06/16/the-spiritual-danger-of-wealth/#comment-168170</guid>
		<description>Saint, this is why I do not believe in broad churches.
Amazing a person has a PhD in theology and has no idea of what divinity is!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saint, this is why I do not believe in broad churches.<br />
Amazing a person has a PhD in theology and has no idea of what divinity is!!</p>
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		<title>By: saint</title>
		<link>http://www.signposts.org.au/2007/06/16/the-spiritual-danger-of-wealth/#comment-168154</link>
		<dc:creator>saint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 00:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.signposts.org.au/2007/06/16/the-spiritual-danger-of-wealth/#comment-168154</guid>
		<description>#13 The Anglican Communion is a very broad church Homer. But there is plenty of &lt;a href="http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2003751274_redding17m.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;NONsense&lt;/a&gt;   as well.

#15 Good comment abtruth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#13 The Anglican Communion is a very broad church Homer. But there is plenty of <a href="http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2003751274_redding17m.html" rel="nofollow">NONsense</a>   as well.</p>
<p>#15 Good comment abtruth.</p>
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		<title>By: abtruth</title>
		<link>http://www.signposts.org.au/2007/06/16/the-spiritual-danger-of-wealth/#comment-168149</link>
		<dc:creator>abtruth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 00:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.signposts.org.au/2007/06/16/the-spiritual-danger-of-wealth/#comment-168149</guid>
		<description>money is a strange thing.. we werent meant to have money - it is a human construction designed to deal with our relationships with each other separate from God.

God designed us to share his creation but in our rebellion we want to own his creation and be master of it ourselves and money helps us do that.

Money is not a neutral thing... it is more powerful than sex,power, material things, position, fame etc because money offers them all... good things can be done with money of course but as humans we are (in our natural state of rebellion) unable to do the right thing with it separate from God's grace... it is only ever through Gods grace that i will ever do any good with what i have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>money is a strange thing.. we werent meant to have money - it is a human construction designed to deal with our relationships with each other separate from God.</p>
<p>God designed us to share his creation but in our rebellion we want to own his creation and be master of it ourselves and money helps us do that.</p>
<p>Money is not a neutral thing&#8230; it is more powerful than sex,power, material things, position, fame etc because money offers them all&#8230; good things can be done with money of course but as humans we are (in our natural state of rebellion) unable to do the right thing with it separate from God&#8217;s grace&#8230; it is only ever through Gods grace that i will ever do any good with what i have.</p>
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