Comments on: Aboriginal sexual abuse

By: Jon Owen

Jon Owen — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 22:38:01 +0000

Not my comments unfortunately. (I haven’t been online in a long time to correct this). The comments were not posted by me , but by Jim Reiher. Though, I would stand by them.

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By: bec

bec — Wed, 04 Jul 2007 03:02:21 +0000

oh… :blush: sorry for jumping down your throat. I’ve just seen that written so many times on blogs and forums in the last week.

I was going to tell Lance that his fish is probably blacklisted by ACF and that everybody knows we should be cutting down on meat.

By: warren terra

warren terra — Wed, 04 Jul 2007 02:45:51 +0000

bec, I was referring to Lance not the PM. I really did LOL when I read Lance’s posts. I was going to write “Its a long way to the shop if you wanna sausage roll”, but thats probably also been done to death.

By: bec

bec — Wed, 04 Jul 2007 01:59:52 +0000

hey all,
I just discovered a wealth of info on ANTaR’s site:

http://www.antar.org.au/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogcategory&id=0&Itemid=127

Jeff McMullen’s piece is well worth a read.

By: bec

bec — Wed, 04 Jul 2007 01:28:56 +0000

Warren,
the “at least he’s doing something” point has been done to death already, and I’m not sure how you know whether or not the rest of us a “just talking” or whether we’re “doing something”.

By: warren terra

warren terra — Wed, 04 Jul 2007 01:16:07 +0000

hey you might question his motives or his methods, but AT LEAST HES DOING SOMETHING while the rest of us are just talking.

By: mn

mn — Wed, 04 Jul 2007 01:07:20 +0000

Hi Bec

I think I’ll still write to my local pollie who is a Lib anyway.

I don’t think the presence of the army will cause any more violence that there already may or may not be - don’t see much difference to being East Timor actually. A lot of the people going will have been in difficult spots before and know how to work through things.

There presence is more likely to drive things underground for a bit, and it also depends a bit on the sales job that gets done in each community. So what happens when those likely to act violently with their own either:

get used to the army presence; or

the army presence ups and leaves with police in place together with support people for addictions, education, how do people make a living etc etc.

I think these are the concerns we should be pushing - the long term stuff.

Anyway I still think Lance is a model citizen - the fish shop proprietor thanks you for making the effort even though he missed you.

Cheers

By: bec

bec — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 23:34:34 +0000

mn…I’d basically express my view of rights as Daisy has, which I actually think is pretty close to what you’re saying.

Re: a letter…I’ve been thinking about this…maybe our time, energy etc is better putting our weight behind organisations that are already taking recommendations to Howard, and already have a “voice” in these matters, ie ANTAR etc.

Abdullah, there have actually been articles written and speeches given expressing the view that the presence of the army etc might contribute to violence, including sexual violence. If you support this approach, that’s fine - but tell us WHY you support it…and please give us reasons other than “well, something has to be done”. That’s not a justification for THIS policy, that’s a justification for absolutely anything under the sun. Please also quit accusing those of us who disagree with this policy of “whining” - chances are that some of us not only have entirely legitimate concerns about the policy, but have actually been “doing something” for quite some time. I’m not “whining” about this policy when I say that alcohol bans are not only paternalistic (when they’re driven from the outside, as opposed to being agreed to by the majority of the community), but likely to be fairly ineffective…the government had no luck banning kava, so why would it be able to ban grog?

For anyone who’s interested…Jennifer Clarke on whether a “national emergency” requires a “national response”…

http://law.anu.edu.au/news/Jennifer_Clarke.pdf

By: abdullah the butcher

abdullah the butcher — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 23:17:15 +0000

rev , white australia has social services who are able to work reasonably quickly. This is not the case in the outback so there needs to be a dramatic
reaction to make changes. I agree with you that in the long term specific key
plans and services need to be implemented.

Sometimes shock and awe can shake people up to act and good may come out from this as long as long term issues are dealt with.

I would like VB to be taken away from all people as i hate beer. Alcohol is the scourge of modern society.